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ss What really happened behind closed doors? In a revealing conversation with ABC’s Jonathan Karl, Nancy Pelosi described the most defining moments in her relationship with the president as “spontaneous” — a word that has now ignited speculation across Washington

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi revealed Sunday that she didn’t intend to tear up President Donald Trump’s 2020 State of the Union address — the moment that went viral at the time when she was Speaker of the House.

During a conversation with ABC’s Jonathan Karl, Pelosi said her defining moments in her relationship with the president were “spontaneous.”

“People like the tearing up of the speech. I didn’t intend to go to the speech to tear it up. I just, the first part of it, I tore a page because he was lying. And then the next page, then the next page. I thought it was a manifesto of lies all throughout, so I better tear up the whole speech. Now, the speeches are on strong paper, so you have to do it a few times to get it done. But I had no intention of doing that. I thought my staff was going to die,” Pelosi said.

She also talked about an image of her pointing a finger at Trump during a 2019 meeting that included the cabinet.

The former House Speaker said she gets more requests to sign that image than anything.

“You know what I’m saying when I go out the door? I’m leaving here because I’ve had it with you, Mr. President. With you, all roads lead to Putin,” she told Karl, who noted that the White House put the picture out and called Pelosi “crazy.”

Nancy Pelosi ripping pages of the State of the Union speech.
Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said that she did not intend to rip up her copy of President Trump’s speech at his 2020 State of the Union. Getty Images
Donald Trump speaking at the State of the Union address with Mike Pence applauding and Nancy Pelosi giving an ironic clap.
Pelosi called Trump’s 2020 address a “manifesto of lies.” POOL/AFP via Getty Images

“They did me a favor,” she added.

Fox News Digital reached out to the White House for comment. 

Pelosi announced in November that she would not seek re-election after completing her current term.

Nancy Pelosi rips a copy of Donald Trump's State of the Union speech while Mike Pence claps behind Trump.
Pelosi announced she is retiring from the House of Representatives after her current term. AFP via Getty Images

Karl also asked what she wanted to be remembered for.

“I’m very proud of the Affordable Care Act. I think it just made a big change in terms of what working families need for their health and their financial health. We will continue to have that fight. It’s not a value that is shared with the Republicans. The healthcare bill was a way of not only meeting health needs but the national needs of families. If I were to be remembered for one thing, it’s the Affordable Care Act,” she said.

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